What Car Was Just Too Damn Heavy To Be Good?

"S65" (granthp) 09/22/2016 at 07:45 • Filed to: Heavy Cars, Skyline GT-R, R34, GT-R, Nissan Skyline, Nissan Skyline GT-R, Mitsubishi 3000GT, 3000GT VR-4, Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4, VR-4, Weight

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The first car that comes to mind for me is the old highly loved, Skyline GT-R. Which was somewhat porky for it’s time. But it was rather competitive with the other lighter sports cars of the time( Mazda RX-7 Toyota Supra, to a lesser extent the 3000GT VR-4 ) and I’m sure you could easily tune the RB26DETT to make up for it’s weight quite easily. Wait a second, wasn’t the 3000GT VR-4 heavier? And much more fragile?

Shit.

LongbowMkII > S65 09/22/2016 at 07:48

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Every modern BMW.

Hot taek.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > S65 09/22/2016 at 07:52

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I was about to say. The 3000gt vr4 convertibles were two tons.

S65 > LongbowMkII 09/22/2016 at 07:59

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longbow I’m burning

Berang > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:01

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What cars weigh over 2500lbs?

S65 > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/22/2016 at 08:02

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Goddamn

AkursedX > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:06

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For a modern car, I would argue the current Ford Taurus SHO Performance Pack falls into this category.

365hp, AWD with upgraded brakes and cooling systems for it to survive hard track sessions. But those 245 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercars trying to keep it’s 4350lb weight from skidding off the track can only hold a .86g skidpad load.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > AkursedX 09/22/2016 at 08:12

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4350lb? My truck weighs less than that...

S65 > Berang 09/22/2016 at 08:13

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Every car. you can New right now, probably.

Tripper > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:18

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Hellcat twins, model s

AkursedX > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 09/22/2016 at 08:22

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I know, right? But for some reason, I keep wanting to buy one....

The Stig's former college room mate > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:22

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My charger. 4153 lbs dry. and can’t fit more than a 275 wide tire under the front fenders.

Berang > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:37

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You’d think so... but the answers will amaze you.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:40

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The Mirage and Spark are probably lighter than that?

Arrivederci > The Stig's former college room mate 09/22/2016 at 08:45

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Obvious answer is obvious :).

Nibby > S65 09/22/2016 at 08:48

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Miata.

OPPOsaurus WRX > The Stig's former college room mate 09/22/2016 at 09:04

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damn, that is right about what my Allroad weighs

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > S65 09/22/2016 at 09:13

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Oh there’s no end to piggish performance cars. If you want to include GT cars, it is even longer.

The SL Mercs are close to two tons. Couple that with a V6 (in Europe, naturally) and you have an issue.

The current M5/M6 are both over two tons. I rode in one around a tight track, and in stock form, you do feel the mass battling with the suspension (I can’t imagine how slow a 520i would be). I get that they are more geared as executive cruisers, but surely they could cut some weight...

I agree on the SHO Taurus. That’s more of “Too damn big for its own good”. What’s more, the cabin is quite cramped in my opinion (I’m 6 foot 4)

Unfortunately this will get worse as the government continues with the mandated safety features (latest idea is back seat sensors since people are apparently leaving their kids in the car all the time, as alleged by the media)

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > AkursedX 09/22/2016 at 09:14

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Because it has big comfy seats and it’s a sleeper

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Berang 09/22/2016 at 09:15

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Yup. Part of why I don't love my VR4 galant is that it handles like a 3300lb car, because it is. I miss my old 2200lb Hondas.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 09/22/2016 at 09:25

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Still want one.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 09/22/2016 at 09:27

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Oh I very much want one.

Mid Engine > S65 09/22/2016 at 09:34

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My 2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type S should have been a lot of fun but at 3500 lbs it was handicapped (that, and the transmission & brakes were remarkably unreliable). Also, my 1989 Toyota Supra Turbo @ 3600lbs was too heavy to be a sports car (MAF and head gasket issues). My 2007 Cayman weighs in at 3000lbs and is a joy to own, sometimes ya just gotta go smaller to have a tossable tw0 door..

Cé hé sin > S65 09/22/2016 at 09:47

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This one. Looks good though.

AhsuBH > S65 09/22/2016 at 10:17

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Every Mustang since the 80's.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > S65 09/22/2016 at 10:39

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BMW F10 being based on the 7 chassis isn’t good for weight.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > S65 09/22/2016 at 10:39

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Dodge Challenger SRT8. How do I know? I daily drove one for 3 years. It’s an absolute garbage car. It is a touring car at best and nothing more.

Don’t even get me started on the Hellcat. That car is worst in every way except the burnout department.

AfromanGTO > S65 09/22/2016 at 11:55

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I remember back in the day Supras were considered pigs. Now they are thought of as fairly light.

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > S65 09/22/2016 at 13:11

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Ha, I was just going to say the 3000!

Die-Trying > S65 09/22/2016 at 13:16

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the cadillac coupe deville, and sedan deville 1969 shown 4640 lbs

also the cadillac fleetwood 75 1967 shown 5430 lbs.........

good BECAUSE they weighed too much........... thats how you got that pillowy ride in the old days. didnt matter what kind of road you were cruising down, dont feel it...............

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > S65 09/23/2016 at 04:48

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Alfa 159. Stunning stunning car, but built on an overheavy GM platform (all GM Europe platforms tend to be significantly heavier than their rivals).

Also, any small sports car that weighs more than 1000kg and change.